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Married..but Lonely

Originally posted on Christianity Today by Jeanette and Robert Lauer

“I thought I’d lost it,” said Billie, a wife of eight years. “I was in the grocery store check-out line. The man in front of me glanced back and smiled. He looked so kind. I had an overwhelming impulse to ask him to hug me. When I got to my car, I burst into tears. I finally had to admit how lonely I felt.”

“I’m tired of feeling alone,” Diane, who’s been married 14 years, commented. “My husband, Ben, is into everything. He has a ball game or a meeting nearly every night. If he’s home he’s on the phone talking over strategies for the next game or meeting. He has time for everyone except me.”

“If friends and colleagues were enough,” Kim, a wife of 10 years, complained, “I wouldn’t have married. I want a husband. I want someone who’s with me, who can share my life on a daily basis.”

No one expects it to happen. Marriage is supposed to prevent loneliness, isn’t it? Unfortunately, it doesn’t.

In our work with couples we’ve frequently heard the same kind of complaint: “I’m married, but I’m lonely.” We all crave the physical and emotional intimacy of a spouse who’s really there for us. When this doesn’t happen, frustration, hurt, and anger mingle with feelings of betrayal. “What’s the point of being married,” as Billie put it, “if you have to go looking when you need someone?” And the longer those feelings of loneliness exist, the stronger the possibility that a spouse will look outside the marriage for support, affection, companionship, and love.

What are some ways to battle marital loneliness?

Analyze your situation
If you’re feeling lonely, ask yourself: 

  • What’s going on in my marriage that makes me feel lonely?
  • Is this a short-term situation I can live with or a long-term situation that needs to change?
  • Answering these questions can save you from falling into several traps.

(1) Blaming yourself. Both Billie and Diane initially felt guilty about their loneliness. Billie was certain that her painful loneliness meant that she had somehow failed. And Diane felt like an ingrate when she complained about a husband who was faithful, family-oriented, and involved in worthy activities. She thought she needed to change the way she felt. But her feelings weren’t the problem; they were a signal that she needed to change her circumstances.

(2) Blaming your spouse. Billie blamed Steve for being self-absorbed and cutting her out of his life. Yet she missed the real source of his behavior—depression rooted in a business venture at the edge of failure. In this case blaming didn’t help the situation.

(3) Thinking your marriage is doomed or at least condemned to mediocrity. Such thinking only deflects you from the task of finding a workable solution.

Create an action list
Answer these questions:

  • What changes would alleviate my loneliness?
  • What can I do, and what can my spouse do, to bring about these changes?

Write a list of the kinds of activities and changes that will relieve your loneliness. Ask yourself if the items are realistic. It’s not realistic, for example, to expect a personality change. It is realistic to ask for extra effort. Although an introvert won’t become an extravert, for instance, he can become more outgoing.

Next, ask if the suggested changes on your action list are sufficiently specific. Diane’s first effort—”We need to spend more time together”—was too general. She finally came up with more specific suggestions: “We need to spend time together each day—lingering over a cup of coffee after dinner, walking the dog around the block, or talking about the events of the day. And we need to go on dates at least twice a month.” The more specific, the better. For instance, saying, “I need you to be more communicative” is so general that your spouse may find it difficult to respond. But saying, “I need you share with me one feeling you have each day” is a specific request to which he can respond.

Discuss your list with your spouse
Once you have your list, share it with your spouse. This may not be easy. Billie found it difficult because Steve hates to talk about feelings: “He becomes defensive and then retreats into his shell. His message is clear: They’re your feelings—deal with them yourself.”

What do you do if your spouse grows angry, defensive, or more withdrawn? Carefully explain the intensity of your feelings and how important it is for you to have his or her help in coping with your loneliness. But don’t blame your spouse. Your approach can be: “We have a problem. I feel disconnected from you and lonely,” not “You are a problem. You’re making me feel miserable.”

Work out an action plan
Negotiate the items on your list. As you discuss them, you may come up with some additional ones. Select several items and develop a plan of action. One item on Diane’s list was that Ben cut back on his activities. He agreed. So their plan of action called for Ben to limit his activities to Saturday morning Little League games and Thursday evening Boy Scout meetings. In response to another item on Diane’s list—more couple communication—they decided to reserve 30 minutes each evening to reconnect.

As they negotiated, Diane realized that a part of her loneliness involved a need for personal growth. She’d become too dependent upon Ben, looking to him to fulfill all her needs. They agreed that she’d take an art class on Wednesday evenings while he stayed home with the children. Finally, they decided to reserve Friday nights as their date night.

Whatever the cause, you can attack marital loneliness if you work together. Be creative, knowing that the possibilities for a fresh start are endless. And if your spouse works with you, the effort will pay off in enhanced intimacy—the best remedy for marital loneliness.

The Secret Mind-blowing Actual Purpose of Marriage

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Originally posted on Christianity Today by Mark E. Smith

I was invited recently to a wedding. My handsome young nephew, the groom, had a smile that could have lit up the universe as his gorgeous blond bride made her way down the aisle to join him in the bonds of matrimony. He was marrying the woman of his dreams, and it was all good. The problem was, like all young kids on their glorious wedding days, my man didn’t really know who he was marrying. If he did, he would have quietly slipped out the back of the church before he uttered those fateful words, “I do.”

I don’t know his beautiful new bride and my comments are in no way a slight on her character. I’m sure she’s a fine young woman who loves her new husband with a pure and sincere heart. But I know who she is: She represents the worst personal characteristics of my nephew’s parents miraculously and cleverly disguised in an appealing and lovely package.

I sat with the rest of the family and friends and watched as a lethal buzz saw headed down the aisle for a meeting with my handsome nephew, and he could not have been more cluelessly happy to embrace it. He had no fear or awareness of the danger he was in.

My friends, this is what marriage is—for all of us.

Marriage, by its very essence, is pain! Not a very romantic notion, I know. The truth is that we all have experienced some childhood wounding. This world of ours is an extremely flawed place and we all get our share of emotional bumps and bruises when we are tiny, unprotected, and vulnerable. Thankfully, complex, hurting, little human beings then have fortresses of powerful psychological defenses that rise up to provide integrity, protection, and safety. We learn to rationalize, cope, act out, devalue, intellectualize, idealize, deny, undo, disassociate, minimize, displace, project, repress, regress, and otherwise numb all the bad stuff out.

The purpose of our psychological defenses? To get us out of childhood in one functioning piece with the misguided impression that we’re all grown up now and we’re free to live our lives without any significant impact from Dad, Mom, and the rest of that bunch.

I wish that were true. 

The truth is that our particular family dysfunction conspires to form and twist us into who we uniquely are—both good and bad. It even determines who you’re attracted to. Whatever wounding you repress from childhood develops and morphs into your love life type.

Part of that is that God desires for each of us to heal our deepest emotional wounds. So to do that, we’re pretty much stuck liking who we like. We’re intensely attracted only to lovers who are hidden versions of Dad’s and Mom’s worst and most hurtful traits. We all have 100 percent unfailing radar systems that draw us to the people who are so wrong for us that they’re right for us. It’s nature’s way. It’s the true meaning of love. It’s why the bad boys get the hot girls. 

I was being facetious when I said that my nephew would slip out the back of the church if he knew the true meaning of the love that drew him to his bride. Like the rest of us, once he got a dose of the magic and energy of genuine early love, nothing could keep him away from his special girl. Love and marriage are worth the pain and the tremendous risks. Marriage is all about opportunities for healing, growth, depth, insight, forgiveness, maturity, and recovery.

Sadly, if you don’t understand that the pain of love and marriage is all about you and your childhood and not about your beloved, then you’ll probably miss out on the incredible opportunities for growth, lessons, and healing that love offers. No matter how your spouse hurts you, it’s ultimately about you and it’s good. There never has been nor there ever be a victim in love and marriage. 

My prayer for my nephew and his bride is a life-long fulfilling relationship that enriches everyone their lives touch. There will be ruthlessly tough times though. It’s normal to have a really dysfunctional family and to ultimately have extremely serious marital problems. It’s all about embracing the work, embracing the pain, and finding out what’s laying deep in your gut when you embrace the cutting of the buzz saw.

The hundreds of couples I’ve worked with over counselor over the past 22 years who have gotten this concept have proactively healed, thrived, and blossomed into healthier and happier people. The vast majority of marriages were not only salvaged, they were rebuilt from the ground up into something truly solid and wonderfully special. But for the couples I worked with who didn’t get the mind blowing secret purpose of marriage—their divorce rates were astronomical. What’s worse, they left their marriages bitter, clueless, jaded, and full of anger to take out on the next hidden version of their unresolved issues that their unerring radars drew into their lives.

This isn’t a small truth. It isn’t psychobabble. It isn’t something that only applies to some people. This is about you. It applies to you if you’re headed to the altar for the first time as a 24 year old; it applies to you if you’re in your early 40s and are desperately lonely and unhappy in your marriage; it applies to you if you’re still looking for the good stuff in love in your 60s. It’s God’s way of healing us.

Marriage and relationships truly are all good. I encourage squeezing every ounce of insight, healing, and growth out of the pain and difficulties that the gift of your particular dysfunctional relationship graces you with.

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Adultery Is Easy, Especially When You’re Busy

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Originally posted on praisedc.com by Sharnell Blevins

This is the third article in a series about adultery.

Ok…what day is it?  Friday Night…It’s time to partay…What time is it?  Friday Night…It’s time to partay… Ok now you realize that I am singing this crazy song in my head.  It might have no rhythm that you know but I am very excited that it is Friday!!!  Another Friday, another week has gone by.  And guess what?  This was a great week.  So, now it’s time to partay!

How do you party?  Some people party one day a week.  Others party several days a week.  And, then there are some who party 7 days 24 hours a day.  Whew!  I don’t know how they do it.  But, they do.

All of us at times have been the life of the party.  We are so busy that we don’t know if we are coming or going.  We are caught asking ourselves did I buy the bread that we need.  I remember going to the store.  But, did I buy everything on my list.  Then we remember, oh wait a minute.  I went to the store last week when we were out of milk but not this week when we need bread.  So, off we go to the store to get bread.  Then our cell phone rings to remind us that we have choir rehearsal tonight.  Now, don’t forget that ministry leaders’ meeting is tomorrow.  And, when we put all of that on our calendar, we see that usher board meeting is three days away.  With all of that going on, how do we connect with our spouses?  Let alone how do we connect with God?

Well, we don’t really.  When we are so busy that we forget whether or not we picked up a loaf of bread, we are too busy to spend intimate time with God or our spouses.  And, when we are too busy to spend intimate time with God or our spouses, we are committing adultery.  Yep, you got that right adultery.  As you know, adultery is committed when anything keeps you from fulfilling God’s purpose for marriage.

It’s all well and good to serve God in the church.  But, if you are not first serving God by serving your spouse, you are out of order – you are committing adultery.  In Ephesians 5:22 – 33, God outlines the way a husband and wife are to serve God by serving our spouses.  God does not tell us in His word to forget about our spouses and lay them aside for worldly riches.  In fact, in Matthew 6:24, God tells us that “no one can serve two masters. The person will hate one master and love the other, or will follow one master and refuse to follow the other. You cannot serve both God and worldly riches.”

God wants us to spend intimate time with our spouses.  This is how we continue to learn, grow in, and cultivate our relationship.  Our marriages are like gardens that need weeding, watering, fertilizing, and care.  We are responsible for participating in the care of our marriages.  God will ensure that we have all we need to ensure a Godly marriage.

What about those people who aren’t too busy?  The ones who don’t really fill up their plates with stuff, what about them?  Or, maybe they are busy but they are busy to hide from the responsibilities of marriage.   Yes.  There are some of us who don’t want to participate in our marriages.  We don’t care if our spouse rises in the early morn or come home in the evening.  We are just apathetic spouses.  In the Merriam Webster dictionary, apathetic means to be having or showing little or no feeling or emotion, basically spiritless.  A second definition is having little or no interest or concern or being indifferent.  Being apathetic in your marriage means you have no passion.

Wow, having no passion.  Why would one move away from passion?  God created marriage to share in His gift of the rich emotion of passion.  A marriage must have a little passion to survive.  Passion is to have a deep interest or desire for something.  Passion is what gets us tumbling around on the bed with our spouse.  Passion is what keeps us up at all hours of the day and night enjoying our spouse.  Passion is the intense feeling we get when we see our spouse coming through the door.  Passion is the sexual desire that we have for our spouse.  God did not create marriage to have no passion.

To read the rest of this article visit: http://praisedc.com/adultery-is-easy-especially-when-youre-busy/

Friday Night Love At New Birth

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It’s Back!! Friday Night Love is kicking off our October event. Be a part of the Friday Night Love experience at New Birth! If you’re married or engaged to be married join us for our next Friday Night Love event on October 30, 2009. You don’t want to miss it! Friday Night Love (FNL) provides couples with an opportunity to enjoy a “night out on the town” in a safe and secure environment.

Friday Night Love promises to:

  • Energize couples with music, good food, fun and fellowship
  • Empower couples with resources and tools
  • Enrich Kingdom marriages and
  • Encourage couples to seek help and direction when neededWe want YOU there! …. Childcare is available for a nominal fee for this event!!

    Register online TODAY!  

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    Word For The Day

    Does Getting Married Seem Hopeless?

     
    Essence Atkins and her husband Jaime Mendez. The couple met on Match.com and tied the knot on September 26, 2009.

    Essence Atkins and her husband Jaime Mendez. The couple met on Match.com and tied the knot on September 26, 2009.

     Originally posted on CBN.com by Kathleen Hardaway

    When was the last time you had a date, much less a relationship? Has life been some what of a disappointment because you never dreamed you would still be single? Single is a word you’ve grown to dislike because it describes a life you wish was someone else’s. A life that seems normal would be one with a husband or a wife, children, a house, maybe a dog and a cat.

    Today I have a cat, but still no husband. I’m in my forties but my life is far from hopeless. Have I gone to all the wrong places, broken all The Rules (as the book suggests), simply missed it? I’m sure some would say, “She’s too picky, She’s not getting out enough, She can’t expect him to appear on her doorstep.”

    Whatever the reasons, is it my fault? I’m choosing to believe that God is still in control of my life. Certainly, single or married we are to be the very best in every area of our lives. Keep striving to look your very best, be your very best, and live your very best. Don’t settle for less. Don’t settle at all. Try not to freak out about your age. I must admit, this can be challenging at times. Don’t let your age cause you to do something you regret.

    You’ve probably heard horror stories about people who have said, “I just couldn’t wait any longer. But now I know I’ve made a horrible mistake rushing into marriage.”

    Who likes to wait? I’ve never heard anyone say, “I love to wait.” Have you? Waiting at times can drive me crazy. I don’t like to wait in lines, wait in traffic, wait for my food to cook, or wait to purchase things. But waiting is a necessary part of life. We’re an instant society and we’ve grown to expect things when we want them.

    But God says to wait on Him. “Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD” Psalm 27:14. Frankly, a strong majority of folks don’t want to wait on God much for anything. God says we’re to wait to have sex prior to marriage
    (I Thessalonians 4:3-7). How many are doing this? Not many. God says we’re not to marry an unbeliever (2 Corinthians 6:14). How many are waiting for a godly mate? Not many. God says, Wait on Him and His timing. So why don’t most people wait…because waiting is hard.

    If you’re not careful you can either choose the wrong mate or live life in utter frustration and despair. In all your waiting don’t give up on God. I’ve gotten a number of e-mails from people who have become bitter, angry, and very mad at God. I understand completely, but you must begin to change your thinking.

    If you’re single and feeling God has forgotten you, what are your options? It’s profoundly simple. You have only one choice: trust God or don’t. I’m not suggesting that anything about this is easy. It’s not. I’ve been there. You feel terrible. You’re not happy where you are and you would like a change. You cannot base your life on what you feel. You feel lousy. You’re not happy and you would like to be married, plain and simple.

    Will you continue to feel lousy or will you put your trust in God? Hang on to the truths from God’s Word, not the lies from the evil one. Lies that tell you you’ll always be single. Lies that whisper in your ear and in your heart that you cannot be happy without a mate. Lies that haunt you and tell you that your life is hopeless because you’re single. What kind of life is that anyway? Lies – Lies -Lies…

    The true and living God gives us reason for getting out of bed. His refining process can be very painful. He uses trials so that we will put our trust and our hope in Him alone, not in someone else. I urge you to choose to be better not bitter.

    Hang on to these words…

    Trust…

    “God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose” (Romans 8:28).

    Divorced, never married, widowed, whatever the reason for your singleness, you can trust God that He can use you where you are today for good.

    Hope…

    “I wait for the LORD, my soul waits, and in his Word I put my hope (Psalm 130:5).

    He is your only hope. Cling to His Word. Don’t give up. Don’t lose heart. Don’t waste any more time feeling sorry for yourself. Live for today; live in the moment. I love what Jim Elliott said, “Wherever you are be all there.” Too often many singles miss life, simply waiting for the day they’ll get married. You’re missing too much life if you’re doing this. You’ve been given a purpose. You’ve been given gifts. You’ve been given life. Live it. Live it believing God for the impossible, for His best.

    Believe…

    “Jesus looked at them and said, ‘With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible’” (Matthew 19:26).

    Will you ever get married? Is it hopeless? Absolutely not. Nothing is impossible with God. No matter your age, your situation, your fears, trust Him. Put your hope in Him. And believe Him moment by moment, day by day, and your joy will be back in your life as you continue to walk with Him believing He knows what’s best for your life today.

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    Keeping Strife Away

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     I read this today on Joel Osteen Ministries’ website and I thought it was an AWEsome read!

    Keep Strife Away by Lisa Comes

    Galatians 5:14–15 says, “The entire law is summed up in a single command: Love your neighbor as yourself. If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.”

    Strife can tear relationships apart. It amazes me at how many Scriptures there are that address the subject of strife. I found 43 scriptures–and that doesn’t even include other synonyms like discord and dissention. Strife is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.

    The definition of strife is – conflict, antagonism, quarrel, struggle, clash, competition, disagreement, opposition, fight.

    These are things we all have to deal with in our relationships, no matter who we are. And the good news is that we can learn to deal with them in a healthy, godly way.

    If you are struggling in a relationship, today is the day to change your mindset. Let God birth a vision in your heart. Ask God to help you and show you what you can do. Start believing God to come up higher in your relationships and become more aware of the causes of strife.

    Some of the major causes of strife in relationships based on Scriptures from the Bible are the following:

    1. Anger

    Proverbs 29:22 says, “An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins.” Wow! If we are not careful, we can get into lots of trouble when we are angry.

    The fact is that we all get angry with people, but the Bible says that we can be angry and sin not. It’s what we do when we are angry that makes all the difference. When you are angry with a person, it’s better to keep your mouth closed and cool down before you do or say something you regret-or before you spark a full–fledged fight. How many times have we said something or done something in anger–and later, regretted it?

    Proverbs 29:11 says, “A foolish person gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.”

    A foolish person vents all of his anger. You are not going to have many friends if you do that. But a wise person holds back and thinks about his response. A wise person thinks about the feelings of the other person before they lash out.

    Conflicts can be resolved without a fight and without yelling and screaming at each other. Proverbs 15:1 says that a soft answer turns away wrath. You can have a healthy debate about something without being angry. It may be a heated debate, but at least you are talking it out! The next time you are angry with your wife, co–worker or child–be wise, stay calm, and think before you speak.

    2. Ridicule

    Proverbs 22:10 says, “Drive out the mocker, and out goes strife; quarrels and insults are ended.” The mocker is someone who ridicules or insults people. One of the worst things you can do to a person, mate, or a child is to ridicule them because of their shortcomings or mistakes of failures. Don’t talk down to people. That’s humiliating to people. It’s a lack of respect. People who ridicule others most likely have low self–esteem problems and just want to make themselves look good.

    We ought to pray that God will help us focus on the good in people and not their faults. If you are going to pull out your magnifying glass, lets magnify their strengths and not their weaknesses. That’s what you would want people to do for you.

    3. Hatred

    Proverbs 10:12 says, “Hatred stirs up strife; but love covers all sins. Hate is a destroyer.” King Saul hated David, and he lost his Kingdom. Hatred is evil and it destroys you. The person who hates if the victim of hate. It holds you captive. King Saul became the victim of his own hate. You may have been greatly wronged, but don’t allow hatred to take root in you.

    4. Gossip

    Proverbs 26:20 says, “Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip a quarrel dies down.” Proverbs 16:28 says, “A gossip separates close friends.”

    Do you know what gossip is? Gossip is repeating idle talk or rumors about the private affairs of others. Don’t gossip about your co-workers or friends. Don’t gossip about people you don’t even know! We all need to stay out of people’s business. We have enough to deal with on or own.

    Don’t talk negatively about your own children or mate to other people. You will cause them to lose favor with people. If you need to talk someone, find a godly person to counsel with, but don’t criticize your own family.

    5. Selfishness

    James 4:1-2 says, “What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but don’t get it?”

    This is a big thing in relationships. We want our way and we want it right now! We don’t like it when we don’t get what we want!

    All relationships require compromise and giving and sacrificing your way for the sake of others. You can’t have your way all the time and expect to have fulfilling relationships.

    6. The Tongue

    Proverbs 18:6 says, “The words of a fool lead to strife”. Our mouth is one of the biggest problems in our relationships. We ought to dedicate our mouth to the Lord every morning and say, “God help me to use my words to build people up and give wisdom.”

    The Bible says that you have creative power in your tongue. What are you creating with your words? Are you creating strife or peace? What are you speaking into the lives of people around you? You create an environment with your word. Use your words to encourage the people in your life.

    7. Pride

    Proverbs 13:10 says, “Pride only breeds quarrels.” Pride keeps us from admitting that we are wrong and that somebody else just may be right! Pride makes us think we know everything-that you can’t learn anything from your mate or your child. Pride makes you unable to see the strengths in others.

    The Bible says to clothe yourself with humility. With humility comes wisdom and honor. In your relationships, don’t be too proud to say. “I was wrong, I made a mistake. You were right. Lets do it your way.” (1 Peter 5:5, Prov 11:2, 15:33)

    8. Quarrelsome

    Attitude Proverbs 26:21 says, “As charcoal to embers and as wood to fire, so is a quarrelsome man for kindling strife”. If you are quarrelsome, you are antagonistic. You wear your feelings on your shoulders. That’s just like kindling a fire in your relationships and home.

    If you are like that, recognize it and begin to change. Sometimes we don’t even realize we are at fault until someone points it out to us. Realize that you don’t always have to be right or have the final say. Be willing to listen and hear people out.

    9. Disagreement

    Proverbs 20:3 says, “It is to a man’s honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.” Did you know that you can actually disagree with someone and still love them and be friends with them? You can even stay married!

    No relationship has perfect agreement all the time. We all have the right to have our own opinions. Sometimes you have to agree to disagree and move on! But if it is in your power to bring agreement and unity, then do what you can do.

    In the Bible, Abraham and Lot had a disagreement over their land and herds, but they worked it out for the sake of staying in relationship with one another. They were family. Abraham was willing to sacrifice the best part of the land in order to keep peace with his nephew. And God greatly blessed Abraham because of it. Relationships are more important than things!

    10. Arguments Over Doctrine and Beliefs

    II Timothy 2:14,24 says, “Strive not over words…which does no good, but upsets and undermines with faith of believers.” The Bible says, strive not! Don’t get in arguments with people over the Bible or Scriptures–it is not worth it. The Bible says that the Lord’s servant must not quarrel, instead gently instruct and be kind to one another.

    Don’t tear your family or relationships apart over what you believe and don’t believe. If they will not receive the truth from you, then the Holy Spirit will have to speak to them and show them what is right. Don’t argue with them!

    Don’t ruin your friends at work over your differences. Jesus said that you are the salt of the earth and the light of the world. He didn’t say you are supposed to straighten people out! Love them, but let God work on them. You are not their Savior! Jesus is–and He knows how to reach them.

    By daily putting into practice the love of God and meditating on these scriptures, your relationships will be full of peace. The seed of peace will reap a harvest of fulfilling happy relationships in your life.

    Fred Hammond Response To A Pastor Regarding Tonзx

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    Many leaders and musicians in the Christian community are being flooded with questions and concerns regarding Tonзx’s interview with Lexi.  Fred Hammond posted on his Facebook page a response to a Pastor that had some concerns about the Tonзx interview.  Here’s what Fred had to say:

    i thought this Pastor was very understanding, and my response to him was this

    Great Message pastor.

    where would i start… I’ve been doing this for 30 years and before that I grew up behind the scenes. I believe before there can be an open forum of exposure there would need to be a private forum of healing where artists can close the door, keep the cameras out and have a place of trust. I appreciate your approach and your message. It was not condemning or combative. Gospel musicians and singers rarely open up because they feel like they have no place where they can get healed, only condemned. If you can provide a place of refuge with compassion and a willingness to understand I think you could be a catalyst for change.

    One thing you should know is that when the fraternity and family of musicians get together (kirk, donnie, myself, kim burrell, yolanda,etc. etc.) and we can get behind closed doors we do openly talk about the issues that plague us. From sexual to family issues and its not one of condoning wrong but its a conversation that walks out and bears each others burden. We all know God’s truth and no one tries to act as if its ok to be in sin but as often as we can we use as much grace , mercy and compassion in dealing with each other. Sometimes its a very lonely place knowing you have a struggle and there’s no place you can go for healing.

    It’s going to take someone who is willing to expose their wounds and their shortcomings for this generation of musicians to open up. My prayer is that one day when Tonex has gotten the victory over this he will look at a generation of young men and women struggling with their sexual orientation and say “I’ve been there I know what you’re going through. When I tried to do right evil was always around me. The thing I shouldn’t do I was always doing and what I should have done I never did. I was a wretch seemed like I was out of my mind and was looking for somebody to help deliver me. Help to remove the dead man that I carried around my neck. I thought it was over for me but God…”

    And he can look at that generation 3-5 years from now and say check out youtube if you think i’m lying. And look them square in the face and say but God delivered me. There were people who loved me enough to walk with patience and compassion, mercy and grace and now I can do the same.

    That is my prayer for Tonex.

    Even though sexual orientation dysfunction/homosexuality has never been and will never be my issue I’ve been through enough to know his pain. So when I see him I’ll be able to sit with him in private and walk with him in a grace and love enough to sow a Godly seed.

    Last 2 things pastor…what if the whole body of Christ were all to stand up and say Tonex get yourself together. We’re appauled and we’re not standing for this if you dont we won’t support you because holiness is right??? Sure this is an approach that could be taken and is justified.

    But what if the whole body of Christ were to say Tonex we’re believing God for the victory with you. We don’t have all the answers but we as a body pray for you diligently and if you need to talk we’ll listen. We love you with the love of the Lord and there’s nothing you can do about it?

    pastor which one of those would Jesus do?

    I’ve been behind closed doors with Tonex and the young man is filled with a lot of hurt and pain. Someone needs to talk to him and let him talk. Someone needs to share their failure with him and how they were able to overcome it. Because we overcome by the word of our testimony and and the blood of the Lamb

    Once again I commend you for a well thought out youtube. There’s a mantle of leadership that rests on you. Hopefully we can talk soon.

    Your brother in the field,

    Fred Hammond
    Hebrews 5:1-6

    Love Unstoppable… I’m Juss say’n

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